Whispering Pines Blog to be discontinued

After thorough review and consideration, the WMVV Board of Directors has made the decision to discontinue this Whispering Pines Show Log Blog. In the near future, the blog will be deactivated and will no longer be available. A searchable document with archived posts will be available on the WMVV.org website. In place of the blog, the following communication channels will be utilized:

1)WMVV.org Website
2)Email communications via WMVV Google Groups. Emails sent via Google Groups may be from the Board of Directors or the Community’s Committees
3)Email communications via HOAMCO

If you are a WMVV property owner and are not receiving emails from both email channels (Google Groups and HOAMCO) please take the following steps:

1)Ensure the WMVV Google Group has the correct email address. Please contact the Communications Committee at: communications@wmvv.org if you need to update your address.

Important Note about Google Group Emails: One of the downsides to mass emails is that sometimes they end up in your spam or trash folder and we don’t want anyone to miss out. One thing that can help minimize this problem is to add the following email addresses to your email contacts: wmvvactivitiescommittee@gmail.com and WMVV Communications Committee: wmvillagers@gmail.com

2)Ensure HOAMCO has your correct email address. You can contact Sherry Watson/Community Manager at HOAMCO 928-537-1067×1404 or via email at swatson@hoamco.com You can also do an online update to HOAMCO’s records by using this link: HOAMCO Update Personal Information.

January 25, 2022 WMVV General Meeting

Dear WMVV Homeowners,

WMVV is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 1:00 pm

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Management,

Building an Email Group for the Villagers

The WMVV Communications committee is building an email group for the residents that will be used as the primary method to provide information about the activities in the village. There is nothing you need to do to be in the group, but you will want to be in the group to be kept up to date. The Communications committee will send you an email, over the next few weeks, from WMVV Residents letting you know that you have been added to the group. If you have not seen the email by 1/14/2022, please check your spam folder. If you still don’t see it or have questions about the group, send an email to communication@wmvv.org.


Thanks, WMVV Communications Committee

Need Help with Cats

A Ring camera has revealed that four or five cats have taken up residence at the home of Jo Lindsay at 2241 E Turtle Creek. Some of these kitties are black and white, one might be gray and one black. They have decided that lounging around on the patio furniture is perfectly acceptable. You know how cats can be. It’s all about them. Male cats think we want their scent lingering on the table legs and chairs so they spray.

Jo is extremely allergic to cats and is unable, for medical reasons, to travel to the Village to deal with this issue right now. If you know who these cats belong to, please pass this on and ask the owner(s) to keep the cats away from this property. If Jo is unable to locate the cats’ parents, she will be contacting a pest person to trap them and take them to Show Low Animal Control. This is definitely not her first choice so any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Should I Call The Police?

Last week someone reported an incident that took place in the Village on Wednesday, July 14th around 4:30 in the afternoon. A shirtless young man with a mat or sleeping bag under his arm rang the doorbell of a resident on Elk Trot Loop. When the resident answered the door, the young man was sitting on the chair on the porch. He said he had just come from the lake and asked if he could use a charger to charge his cell phone. He offered a dollar for it. He was told no and left walking north on Elk Trot Loop. At 5:00 that same evening, someone else saw a man run up the new fire road and climb over the fence into the Woodfield RV Park. This person had a shirt on so not sure he was the same person or if the two were together.

The Village is private. Residents and their guests are the only people who should be on the premises. If you see someone suspicious call the police right away. A private development inside the Show Low City limits is still entitled to police protection. Don’t hesitate to call for help. You could be saving yourself or a neighbor from being hurt or robbed.

2021 Annual Assessment Notice

Testing & Assessment / Home

Although no large projects are scheduled for 2021, the Board has a mandate to maintain healthy reserves while avoiding the need for special assessments. White Mountain Vacation Village is a private subdivision responsible for maintaining its infrastructure without benefit of municipal contributions from the City of Show Low. A nominal increase in assessments has been approved for 2021.

Some of the projects for 2021 which your assessments support:

  • Elimination of dead or dying trees and control of explosive new growth. This is a necessary and fundamental strategy in our efforts to control or prevent a possible wildfire. It also benefits our members by improving visibility, which may reduce unexpected and dangerous encounters with wildlife in the area.
  • Road repairs and maintenance
  • Clubhouse repairs and maintenance
  • Pond maintenance

White Mountain Vacation Village Amenities supported by your assessments include:

  • Hiking trails
  • Picnic tables
  • Clubhouse
  • Laundry
  • Pavilion
  • Recreational activities including disc golf, bocce ball, horseshoes

Items included as part of your assessments:

  • Water
  • Sewer
  • Garbage
  • Snow plowing

Your 2021 statements will be mailed separately. As a reminder, the board made a decision to make your assessments due quarterly. This change stems from a modification to the existing law by Arizona Senate Bill 1531 which was passed by the legislature and signed by the governor last year.  This law became effective January 1, 2020.  The assessments are due January 1st, April 1st, July 1st and October 1st of each year.  Assessments are late if received after the 15th of the month they are due.  If you wish, for budgeting purposes, to pay monthly you need to first be ahead by two months and then you can submit a monthly payment.  You have the option of opting into electronic statements.

Please plan to make your assessments payments as follows, beginning in January 2021:

  • Unit 2 Phase 1,2, 3 and Unit 4 = $450.00

Mountain Lodges:

  • Unit 3 Phase 1 = $450.00 + $135.00 (secondary assessment for co-owned carports and lot maintenance) = $585.00
  • Unit 3 Phase 2 = $450 + $35 (secondary assessment for Mountain Lodges common area) = $485.00

Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you.

2020 Annual Meeting Open Forum Comments & Questions

Common Questions and Answers – Fire and Gas Detection - Honeywell AnalyticsGeorge and Donna Randall –2171 Lariat Way and 2280 Horseshoe Loop

“Why can we not have gates to be a gated community? We are lot owners of 2 lots and have been broke into several times. We have added locks, lights, security etc. and have still been violated. We even lost our Polaris Ranger that was locked up, covered and they cut the lock. We have asked so many times for the Village to get us gates and have been ignored or told NO WAY! The HOA fees we pay are higher than fees in the valley who are a gated community. There are too many contractors in and out of the Village if they were gated it would all be documented. Our belongings were loaded in a truck and trailer and taken out of the Village This issue needs to be addressed ASAP.

You make some good points related to theft of belongings. Gating the community is a complicated proposition. An issue is the access via Vacation Village Drive. It is ingress and egress for more than the Village. If a gate were installed, with or without an attendant, installing, maintaining it and keeping the entrant list current will increase the quarterly assessment. Another complication is that to be truly gated would require fencing the entire Village.

Jeff Sharrah – 2250 Fossil Trail

“I read in the minutes from the last meeting that the clubhouse is able to have “upgraded DSL internet”.  My question is if a phone line can be run up to the club house, why can’t lines be pulled throughout the development?  Everyone knows the cell service is pathetic and there is NO good internet option for the residents.  So, why not extend the same “priviledge” that the clubhouse has to rest of us?  And/or, can we not invite Verizon to install a cell tower (or some sort of signal booster) in club house parking lot?  Anything would be an improvement.”

Frontier was asked to give a quote a few years ago. They did not respond. They have since filed for bankruptcy. Perhaps someone would like to form a committee to explore what other options are available.

John Kosir – Lot 85 Lariat Way

“How many more lots have to close in the lodges before the homeowners take over the HOA?”

There are three lots in escrow right now. Two should close by September 30th and the other should close by October 20th. That leaves only two lots, 17 & 19 in unit 3 and Lot 12 which has a park model on it.

“How can we go about getting cable internet into the community?”

Cable One (now Sparklight) did a site study in 2018 and responded that the site was “unserviceable.” Construction costs to bring cable to the location is >$20-30k.

“How do I go about running for the HOA board when the homeowners take over?”

Look for a blog post soon to explain the process.

Chuck Vore – 3670 Latigo

“In the winter, please insist that the people doing snow removal go all the way down to the road surface. When they leave a layer on top, it creates an ice slick that makes it impossible to drive on.”

Plows sit on skids to prevent them from plowing down to the surface of the road. That is why we deploy cinders.

“I have suggested this numerous times but my suggestions have gone unheeded. PLEAE PUT ALL THE BOLTS IN THE SPEED BUMPS! They only install them with 2 and after 2 days they are coming up and I have to call to report it. Plus, I can’t tell you how many times I stopped my car to put them back in place. It’s a simple thing.”

The speed bumps have been removed for the season in anticipation of the winter snows. The problem will be dealt with next year.

“We need better contact for issues with the laundry room. I am not owed $3 for money lost in non-working machines. One I reported but it was obviously not fixed since it happened again on the same one.”

Sherry Watson is the contact for laundry room issues. Her email address is SWatson@HOAMCO.com.

Jim Larson – 4400 Elk Trot Loop

“What is current disposition of the 6 acre property that is contiguous to the Mountain Lodges?”

The property is currently under contract with a 90-day due diligence clause.

“Why is the emergency gate in the Mountain Lodges locked with a padlock on weekends? If there were a fire that blocked the main entrance we would have no way out.”

That gate is not an emergency exit. Please refer to the blog post of August 23, 2019 “In Case of Fire or Other Emergency” to review information regarding emergency exits.

“Do we presently have an established Investment Committee? If no, then I would suggest one should be established to:

Develop and implement an investment policy with respect to the management of HOA funds

Review the most recent reserve study to ensure funds are available in a timely fashion for upcoming capital projects

Committee to be composed of 2-3 resident homeowners with expertise in investment management, one of whom would be designated Chairman! All committee member to be appointed and approved by Board.

Committee Chairman to report to Board on an as-needed basis with respect to Items 1 & 2.

If this is of interest I would offer to develop a proposed policy for the annual meeting.”

There is not an established Investment Committee and this question/comment may have great value. Typically, the Association Treasurer, in this case the RSA, would head up the Finance Committee and would be a big part of what the Finance Committee would do. It sounds to me like you need to throw your hat in the ring to run for the board. Look for a blog post soon to explain the process.

“Are there any currently pending legal matters involving either the developer and/or HOA?”

There are no pending legal matters involving the developer.

The Court issued a ruling in the case brought by Mr. Standage and Mr. and Mrs. Ellsworth against the Association last year.  The Court ruled in favor of the Association and against Mr. Standage and the Ellsworths.  If you want a copy of the ruling, email Sherry Watson at SWatson@HOAMCO.com  and she will send it to you by email.  If you want any further information about the case, it’s a matter of public record and you can view it at the Navajo County Superior Court.

“Has Mr. Standage ever reimbursed us for our attorneys fees relative to defending against his lawsuit(s)?”

Not at this time.

Bill & Susan Daugherty – 211 E. Recreation Loop

“We would again like to bring it to the Advisory Committee’s Attention:

Residents & Service Vehicles for WMVV are speeding post our property located at 2111 E. Recreation Loop (two lots down from the sales office). It is a rather straight stretch before the stop at Recreation Loop & Vacation Village & many choose to use it as a short speedway on the way in & out of Phase II. We requested that an appropriate speed limit sign be installed last year but this has not been done. Please address this issue before there is an incident and someone is hurt or a pet is run over.”

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. A sign will be installed soon.

Richard Schaefer – 2320 Quarter Horse Way

“We own a park model at this address. Our driveway is large enough that we could park our small travel-trailer 18’ there with a car. We want to use it on trips around AZ & the 4 corners of AZ-Utah-New Mexico & Colorado. We have no intention to use it as a camper in our driveway. Only to be able to have it here when we wait to travel. According to the CC&R’s this is O.K. Do I have the correct assumption?”

No. The Board passed a resolution in 2017. See below. It can also be found on the Village People website (WMVV.org) under Documents, Forms and Downloads. The document is titled General Rules.

Parking of Additional Vehicles (June 20, 2017) Each lot is restricted to the parking of no more than two additional vehicles, each of which is used only for transportation, and not for eating and sleeping.

The above statement shall be clarified and interpreted to preclude by way of example and not by limitation, Class A, B and C Recreational Vehicles, as those Recreational Vehicles are designed and used for eating and sleeping, and not designed to be used only for transportation.

Dorothea E. Blondefield – 2280 Turtle Creek Road #191

“Myself and others that I have talked to over some years now, would like to have a carport allowed. I know and definitely would want it, that a committee of some sort should ok the construction of these carports to compliment our beautiful White Mountain Vacation Village. Every year, my car is covered with tree sap that could ruin the finish of my car and looks terrible.

This would require a change in the CC&Rs.

“We have a very dangerous problem on the Turtle Creek and Recreation Road. The steep hill prevents us to see the traffic coming from the left because of the car and golf cart parked there. I believe by making Turtle Creek a one way going in the other direction will take care of the problem.”

This issue will be referred to the committee that handled the street direction change.